Mesa, Tempe, Gilbert, Scottsdale lawmakers split on mass transit need, spending
CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES
Posted 6/19/23
The merits of mass transit and how it should be funded are dividing legislators in the East Valley, and the most pointed criticism of light rail is coming from Barbara Parker of Mesa.
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Mesa, Tempe, Gilbert, Scottsdale lawmakers split on mass transit need, spending
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CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES
The merits of mass transit and how it should be funded are dividing legislators in the East Valley, and the most pointed criticism of light rail is coming from Barbara Parker of Mesa.
"The light rail not only destroyed our historic Main Street and downtown Mesa, but it destroyed lifelong businesses of families and generations of business that had been there for years and year,'' the Republican House member said.
Nor does she believe it is being used to any significant extent by commuters.
"We are funding a loser,'' Parker said. "In our town, it's a moving urinal and that is it.''
Voters across the state are likely to decide whether Maricopa County residents get a chance to extend the half-cent sales tax for transit projects.
Gov. Katie Hobbs said Wednesday she will back a proposal to put an issue on the 2024 ballot repealing a state law that requires Maricopa County - and only Maricopa County - to obtain legislative approval before putting the tax renewal to voters.
The governor acknowledged that she could call lawmakers back to the Capitol after she vetoes the funding plan approved Tuesday by Republican. The governor said what was sent to her is unacceptable, from less money for mass transit than sought by the Maricopa Association of Governments to the fact that the GOP plan would require two separate votes.
But Hobbs said that it makes no sense to call legislators back given that Republicans have drawn a line in the sand.
"I don't think it serves anyone's purpose if they're not willing to come to the table and talk about a deal,'' she said. "And that requires some cooling off.''
While Parker said those living in Mesa have seen enough, Democrat Lorena Austin, also representing Mesa, painted a different picture.
"The light rail has been absolutely transformative,'' she said.
"If you've been to downtown Mesa, even in just the past year, you would see that all the retails are actually booming,'' Austin said.
"We can't get businesses in there fast enough. And it has everything to do with public transportation.''
Senate Minority Leader Mitzi Epstein, D-Tempe, told colleagues that short-changing mass transit - and light rail in particular - is not a good move.
"Light rail is the most efficient way to move people,'' she said, especially in areas of high density.
"And if we continue to have the idea that everything must be a single driver in a car on a road, we will just get to the point of having to pave every speck.''
But Sen. John Kavanagh, a Republican whose district includes Scottsdale, said Arizona doesn't have the density of a place like New York, where he is from, to make mass transit and rail a meaningful way to get people out of their cars.
Senate President Warren Petersen, R-Gilbert, said the GOP plan does not mean that there will never be a further extension of light rail. What it does mean, he said, is that it won't be paid for by everyone who buys items subject to sales taxes throughout Maricopa County.
"If cities want to do light rail, you know what?'' Petersen said. "They can find ways to fund it and do it.''
Hobbs made her comments after Rep. David Livingston, R-Peoria, made it clear there will be no room for compromise regarding the plan Republicans sent to the governor.
"This is going to be the only bill that passes this session'' on extension of the tax, Livingston said. "This is the only bill that voters will have a chance to vote on.''
And other Republicans made it clear that, from their perspective, if Hobbs won't accept their plan, that closes the door on Maricopa County voters having any chance to extend the levy, first approved in 1985, for another 20 years.
If that's the case, the current tax will self-destruct at the end of 2025. And all the funds it would raise - an estimated $20 billion over the next two decades - would not be collected and all the projects that the cash would fund will not happen.
What that leaves is Plan B, what Avondale Mayor Kenn Weise, chairman of MAG, called the "Free Maricopa'' initiative. He said the idea is to sell voters statewide on the idea that residents of the state's largest county should not be hobbled by a restriction that doesn't apply anywhere else.
"Maricopa County is the only county in the state that has to go through this process'' of getting the blessing of state lawmakers to ask voters to extend the tax, Weise said. "And we've seen just how disastrous that can be.''
What that would mean is getting 255,949 valid signatures on petitions by July 3, 2024 to put the issue to voters that November. Then, if it passed, it would be up to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to set a date for a special election in early 2025 on extending the tax, one in sufficient time that, if approved, would kick in when the current levy expires at the end of that year.
Livingston, for his part, told Capitol Media Services he's not worried.
He said he doubts the business community would pony up multiple millions of dollars to get the signatures for the initiative and then probably $10 million or more to convince voters statewide to let Maricopa County out from under the legislative restriction.
Weise, however, said he doesn't foresee a problem getting the necessary backing, especially in the wake of Republicans telling Maricopa County, effectively, that when it comes to a transit tax, it's their way or the highway.
"When things like this happen, it has a tendency to energize and galvanize those stakeholders that are vested in this plan,'' he said. "My hope is we would get support from the business community to move forward with this.''
Financial issues aside, Hobbs said she believes that voters statewide would be willing to support repeal of the restrictions under which Maricopa County has to operate.
"They're holding them hostage,'' she said. "It is ridiculous that Maricopa County has to go to the Legislature to get permission to go to the ballot for something for their region.''
And the governor said there's something else she believes will convince voters outside of the state's largest county that it's in their interest to ensure that Maricopa voters have a chance to extend the half-cent levy.
"If Maricopa doesn't get this, then every other region of this state is going to be competing with Maricopa for transportation dollars,'' she said.
All that goes to the question of why the Legislature decided that it needed to have veto power over the Maricopa plan.
"They thought that a government agency like MAG could have too much power,'' Livingston said. "Obviously that is true because they put something together that the people that represent the Legislature didn't agree with.''
But Livingston sidestepped the point that MAG, by itself, lacks the power to impose a levy. Instead, the organization composed of elected officials still would have to offer a plan that it believes would be acceptable to a majority of Maricopa County voters.
He also said that the willingness to go to the ballot proves that MAG never was negotiating in good faith with the Legislature.
"This was their plan all along,'' Livingston said.
That's not true said Ed Zuerker, MAG's managing director.
"We have given on freeways,'' he told Capitol Media Services. "They wanted more freeways, so we increased the freeway number.''
At the same time, Zuerker said, MAG decreased the percentage it was seeking for transit. And he said the organization even agreed that any light rail extensions would be funded not by the half-cent sales tax but other revenues.
And Zuerker said MAG even agreed to language to require Valley Metro to meet certain "benchmarks,'' based on comparable cities, of what percentage of the operating costs of buses, trolleys and light rail would be covered by fares.
"I mean, just time after time, we have found ways to give what they say they need and ask for as much as we can while keeping the plan intact,'' he said. "And we just have hit a limit of there's no more to give.''
Hobbs said she will be taking the lead from supporters of the renewed tax on how they want to proceed.
What Hobbs and MAG want is extension of the half-cent levy for 20 years, with 40% of the proceeds going towards freeways, an identical amount to mass transit, with the balance for regional and arterial roads.
By contrast, Republican lawmakers authorized a vote on a 0.0495 cent levy, with a larger share going towards freeways. More to the point, they want Maricopa residents to have to approve not just the basic 0.43-cent levy but a separate 0.07-cent tax for construction and extension of light rail.
House Speaker Ben Toma said what Republicans approved gives Hobbs and MAG, made up of local elected officials, what they want: the chance to extend the sales tax until 2045.
"And the fact that some seem to be concerned, shall we say, about the fact that it's split into two questions is very telling to me,'' he said. "They might be a little bit afraid, perhaps, that light rail isn't going to pass while the other bucket would.''